Planning submitted for supermarket @ Larkfield Bus Depot
The planning application has been submitted for the (previously discussed) superstore, on the site of the Larkfield Bus Depot in Govanhill. Its an unfortunate coincidence that this application was submitted on the the eve of the Glasgow Fair holiday, meaning the window for people to officially comment on the proposals falls over the two weeks of the year when a large proportion of Glasgow is not here. Its also an interesting bit of serenpidity that the day it was submitted was also the deadline for responding to the Glasgow City Plan questionaire,which in theory is a document allowing us the citizens to shape the way the City develops and which this Supermarket proposal is currently contrary to (the site is designated for housing not retail).
When the Larkfield Supermarket scheme was first raised there was a lot of debate from people both for and against, with I'd say a majority raising more concerns about the negetive impacts that the scheme could bring about. As such we thought we should provide a link to information on how to comment on the application. Its very important that the Govanhill community have a strong say in what happens in their area and this is their oppertunity to impact on a very major site right in the heart of the community. We'd urge everyone with an opinion on the matter to take a read of the below and send in their views. We also thought it worth pointing out what is and isn't grounds for representation. For example one of the things which a lot of people have raised as a concern, "the impact on local shops" is not considered suitable grounds for a representation. The list of things which you can make representations on are only-
As part of the application the developers have submitted an overview report, a copy of which you can read here. Its worth a read, to get a feel for the idea the developers are trying to sell. Having read through and re-read the comments on our previous post, it would appear most of the previously raised concerns from readers have not been addressed and I can imagine quite a few people still very worried about how the site may be developed.
As mentioned in an earlier post the quality of architecture and construction which has been foiseted upon this area of the city has been dreadful, with the M74 cutting through it, cheap buildings like the plaza thrown up to make a quick buck or the baths closed down to save a quick buck. It would be a tradegy if the Govanhill area was still not allowed to have a stronger say in what gets built or were not able to expect and to demand more thought, care and quality in how their area is developed. Therefore we urge everyone to take some time to read through the application, visit the planning offices if you can and make you opinions either way known.
When confronted by the huge number of complaints about the quality of the finished Plaza building the project developers said "Residents had their opportunity to object to the design during the planning process." Lets not let that happen again. If something is going to get built, lets make sure its something that we all feel deserves to get built.
EDIT: Funny but quite true image sent in by a reader below.
- Contrary to the Development Plan
- Appearance (design, materials, scale, massing etc)
- Traffic, parking and access problems
- Residential amenity (noise, overlooking, overshawdowing)
- Effect on listed buildings and Convervation Areas.
As part of the application the developers have submitted an overview report, a copy of which you can read here. Its worth a read, to get a feel for the idea the developers are trying to sell. Having read through and re-read the comments on our previous post, it would appear most of the previously raised concerns from readers have not been addressed and I can imagine quite a few people still very worried about how the site may be developed.
As mentioned in an earlier post the quality of architecture and construction which has been foiseted upon this area of the city has been dreadful, with the M74 cutting through it, cheap buildings like the plaza thrown up to make a quick buck or the baths closed down to save a quick buck. It would be a tradegy if the Govanhill area was still not allowed to have a stronger say in what gets built or were not able to expect and to demand more thought, care and quality in how their area is developed. Therefore we urge everyone to take some time to read through the application, visit the planning offices if you can and make you opinions either way known.
When confronted by the huge number of complaints about the quality of the finished Plaza building the project developers said "Residents had their opportunity to object to the design during the planning process." Lets not let that happen again. If something is going to get built, lets make sure its something that we all feel deserves to get built.
EDIT: Funny but quite true image sent in by a reader below.
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Things to think about as objections to the proposal.
Contrary to the Development Plan
An important aspect of this proposal is that the submission contradicts the Local Development Plan. The production of the local plan gives the community (ie us all) the opportunity to participate in deciding the detailed policies and specific proposals for future developments and use of land in your local area. The plan identifies specific areas as suitable for housing, industry, shopping or other uses. The Development plan is used to guide and inform day-to-day decisions as to whether or not planning permission should be granted. The adoption of a local development plan is a long process, it's revised numerous times and takes into considerations the communities views and objections as per the questionnaire linked to above.
The larkfield bus depot site is noted in the current local development plan as an area for the development of housing not shopping or businesses. Why then after all the time and community consultations to produce the local development plan should it be ignored because the developers can make more money. I should point out that the developers were granted planning permission for housing on the site, however they argue that because of the current market it is more viable to build a superstore. The question is this more beneficial to the developer or to the community.
'sites such as the one at Larkfield are unlikely to prove commercially viable during the next 5 – 10 years' Developers overview report.
Is it not more important for our city, community and neighbourhoods that the correct development is built not for the developers but for our communities. Should the fact that the developer may have to wait five years to turn a profit be more important than our local plan. Especially when there is a desperate need for quality affordable/ social housing in the area.
Appearance
The proposal for the Superstore is a bog standard, off the shelf, cheap supermarket design, just like all the other out of town giant superstores. However this is not the suburbs or an industrial estate on the edge of the city, this is being built in Govanhill one of the most densely populated areas in the country. Does this proposal relate to the three and four storey tenements forming the city blocks, does it adequately address the street. Does it feel a part of the area or does it feel dropped in to fill a space? Does it help connect the North to the South?
The site currently has some attractive brick warehouses, whose demolition would be a loss to the area.
Traffic
Part of the argument for forming the M74 extension was to reduce the amount of traffic within the Govanhill area. This proposal will greatly increase the amount of cars driving into and out of the site and put pressure on parking.
Terrible idea! What are they thinking?
Darn trust me to go on holiday when this actually happens. I've been following it for months and turn my back for two minutes and look what happens.
Is it going to be a Tesco? Sorry, but that is exactly what local residents without cars need - a grocery store within walking distance.
I have to agree that there needs to be more shopping choice for local residents, but don't be fooled into thinking that this development is for the community of Govanhill. There are over 600 car parking spaces in the development. It is the wrong scale for the area and will kill Victoria Road.
What's on Victoria Road that would be killed?! I think the take-aways and kebab joints will do just fine...
What shops? Butcher, fruiterer, florist, hardware stores, newsagents, off-licence, bakers - all of which are on Victoria Road at the moment. And most of which could close within a year of the superstore opening which has already been the case in other areas. Never mind it'll create more vacant lots for yet more charity shops and pound stores! :-(
We should be looking at proposals to support and expand the shops we have already not just dropping in a big superstore. Local pounds? Discounts? Lowered rates? Redesigning the road layout/ bus routes?
While Victoria Road and our other smaller highstreets don't have the shops they did 40 years ago we should (and I mean as a nation) be asking how can we be breathing new life into them and not just waving the white flag and sending in the superstores everywhere. More than 1 in every 4 pounds spent in the UK is already spent in a superstore. Pretty soon small shops really won't be sustainable at all and then communities will really suffer.
The developers claim the superstore will rejuvenate Victoria Road. They should have to provide documented evidence of this happening anywhere in the country.
If they are allowed to go ahead regardless then they should also be forced to instigate lots of local development connections with the store, provide funding to local initives and donate a large cut of money to the baths.
does anyone know if this is still going ahead or not ?
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